Trump calls John Kelly a 'marshmallow' and says Jack Smith should be 'thrown out of the country'

Donald Trump called his former White House chief of staff John Kelly a 'stupid person' and 'weak' on the inside after he came forward to say publicly his former boss met the definition of 'fascism.'

Trump made the comments on John Castimatidis' WABC radio show in New York, where he issued a new threat against special counsel Jack Smith.

The threat came in response to a question about illegal immigration. Trump called to get the 'killers, the murderers and the mentally deranged people out' – which prompted him to suddenly pivot Smith, who is heading the January 6 case against him.

'We should throw Jack Smith out with them - the mentally deranged people. Jack Smith should be considered mentally deranged. He should be thrown out of the country.'

That prompted an interruption from Castimatidis, who suddenly remembered the question he had forgotten earlier in the broadcast. 'I remember! I remember!' he exclaimed.

The question was whether Trump considered it 'treason' by whoever let 13,000 murderers into the country.

Former President Donald Trump called former White House chief of staff John Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, a 'marshmallow.'

Former President Donald Trump called former White House chief of staff John Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, a 'marshmallow.' 

Trump didn't use the phrase, but immediately said the one who 'called the shot' was political rival VP Kamala Harris.

His comments about expelling the prosecutor leading the case against him follows Harris claiming in a CNN town hall that Trump has an 'enemies list,' citing his call for 'retribution.'

Trump said this week he would immediately fire Smith if he is elected, which would effectively shut down the January 6 case and the classified documents case, where Smith is appealing the order by a Trump-appointed judge.

Trump's comments about Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, were scathing, and come after Kelly told the New York Times on the record that Trump told him on more than one occasion, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too.'

Trump ripped former White House chief of staff John Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general. 'He was tough, but ultimately became a marshmallow,' Trump said

Trump ripped former White House chief of staff John Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general. 'He was tough, but ultimately became a marshmallow,' Trump said

Vice President Kamala Harris responded to Kelly's comments and brought it up at a CNN town hall

Vice President Kamala Harris responded to Kelly's comments and brought it up at a CNN town hall

He also said Trump met the textbook definition of fascism. 'Well, looking at the definition of fascism: It’s a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy,' he said. 'So certainly, in my experience, those are the kinds of things that he thinks would work better in terms of running America,' he said.

Trump ripped Kelly, his longest serving chief who left his role in January 2019, while saying people he fired always had a motive to talk to newspapers.

'John Kelly was a stupid person. He was a stiff. He had no - no anything. He had very little.'

Then Trump said he had 'two things - he was tough, but ultimately became a marshmallow. 

'He was as weak as anybody I've ever seen. But he was a bully,' Trump said. 

'I realized I didn't like him, you know, pretty quickly in, and was stopping paying attention.

'I saw him lying when he was in the administration. I thought it was really amazing,' Trump said. 'I have so much stuff on the guy. But I don't want to waste a lot of time with that,' he said, immediately before repeating his attack.

'John Kelly was a man with rather low intelligence, who was a tough guy who became a marshmallow.' 

Trump also went after his former Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, who has also publicly come out against Trump. 'Yesper was a week - I call him "Yesper" because he said yes to everything,' said Trump. He called him 'weak and ineffective.'

Kamala Harris and her campaign have been trying to get mileage out of the string of former top Trump officials who have denounced him.